RCM G4WC

原帖由 conrod 於 2008-9-19 12:12 發表

                               
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rcstudy hardsell到過黎,樓上鋪難做啊！！

TM D....

Wow, Mr. Fox No. 6  

原帖由 blee 於 2008-9-19 12:15 發表

                               
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知你有架 500hp 嘅貨櫃車啦, 司馬先生  

Mr.Pure Blooded Fox Blee

eating its sour grapes

[ 本帖最後由 donaldt 於 2008-9-19 12:30 編輯 ]

原帖由 blee 於 2008-9-19 12:15 發表

                               
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知你有架 500hp 嘅貨櫃車啦, 司馬先生  

come on 任你簡部同你跑場

唔好嘈交喇~^_^

OK?

我有用過K Factory出比RRR既brake pad, 效果同Kyosho黃色AP pad一樣咁好!

TM G4RS of design and option parts of quality is ok but quite expensive.

[ 本帖最後由 tekin 於 2008-9-19 13:08 編輯 ]

我覺得依家唔係車既問題,係人既問題~

原帖由 checkie 於 2008-9-19 19:21 發表

                               
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我覺得依家唔係車既問題,係人既問題~

我本來不想在工房發言,不過我不想引來大家對本人的誤會,我有必要作出澄清
輝仔,當日你在RCSTUDY Post野我一早就知是你,我也知道你是阿龍的Friend,我和你也傾過偈,也算是你的朋友
你的問題我第一句已答了你,接下去的我要道出現在實在有很多"憎人富貴厭人貧"的人,我是以一個朋友身份同你討論這個問題,
我是沒有理由無緣無故去小阿龍的朋友,我並不是特別針對你,可惜我不知你為何要對號入座

我Post一出,重來都不會Delete番之前的Post,我身為RCSTUDY (www.rcstudy.com) 的唯一的創造及維護者,我要在 RCStudy點做,點9up都可以,甚至摺埋唔玩都可以,
這幾年來,Server,網路費用,所有都是我獨自承擔,我的目的也是為香港的遙控車壇出一分力,希望車壇上多一些新血 (Under 30),
不要玩來玩去,就只有我們的一班老鬼,我也很痛恨一些重來只會Up 3 Up 4,卻又沒有Post一些有建設的資訊的人,
咩野是ST Steel,咩野是7075-T6,咩野是純碳纖維,一舊7075的大積木如何車成一件一體成形的零件,
花了多少工序,當中你我也不是十分了解,你覺得不值,大可以不買,但不要未攪清楚就話人地掠水暴利,

當然我一直都主張言論自由,所以在這幾年來,我從來都無Cut個人地D post,我更不需要自我審查,
所以如果你們之前在RCstudy裡被人cut post或被人Delete account的,絕非是本人所為,是其他板主所做的
查實cut我post是阿龍,還是在我不知情下Cut我post,我果日火都黎埋,平時好日都無發言,一出post就比人Cut post,我打了半個小時就是要插那些自以為自己很精明的人,
真的感謝你使我的post重現,阿龍cut我post,話因為會影響你們的朋友關係,很明顯他是覺得你是我講緊的那類人,所以他進行自我審查

如果大家依然覺得 RCstudy或 遙控工廠的相關人過來工房發言純粹只是賣廣告而對車壇是一些建樹都沒想有,我會要求相關人等撤離工房,
只準回去我們自己的RCStudy發言


在此請Amat兄容我在這宣洩一下,有得罪之處,多多包涵

[ 本帖最後由 peterlee 於 2008-9-19 22:43 編輯 ]

I think we should all go back to the G4RS G4WC topic...however, i have to clarify 1 thing.

This G4WC version is demonstrating a FULL OPTION of a G4 series RC car. G4RS will not fall apart without ALL THESE option...I ran the stock G4RS for 3 months and 5 major 2 days event all over USA mid west and have good reason, even using the stock plastic parts and I have NOT break 1 single arm (front and rear) of the car...

In fact...I have about $200 USD of parts still NIB and I have no idea what to do with it.....seriously.

I am using WC version now JUST because I want to get the latest design version and have the latest technology from TM and hopefully to get the G4 better.

Selling in HK is extremely difficult. When you guys saying MADE IN TAIWAN stuff should be cheaper then XRAY SERPENT KYOSHO....how can you verify that this is the case..? Serpent has been made in china for a long period of time untill the recent relocation (it was the industrial secret untill now..) If you know our COST of buying TM stuff, you will know our profit is far LESS then selling fish ball in HK.

Overall, I myself would love to meet everyone here and be friend with everyone, and I have alot of good infomraiton about the G4RS and G4WC that have no problem to share. The G4RS is just as fast as NT1 and MTX4R and definitely better then 720 (I was running 720 at the beginning of the season until I was picked up by RCM/TM)

personal, I really support RC factory, because they give us more choice on RC car.
Fully support on spare parts is quite difficult to find in hk like them.

原帖由 peterlee 於 2008-9-19 22:40 發表

                               
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我本來不想在工房發言,不過我不想引來大家對本人的誤會,我有必要作出澄清
輝仔,當日你在RCSTUDY Post野我一早就知是你,我也知道你是阿龍的Friend,我和你也傾過偈,也算是你的朋友
你的問題我第一句已答了你,接下去 ...

有人嘅地方就好自然就有爭嗌。
"憎人富貴厭人貧"基本上是中國人的心態，唔多唔少你同我都有，又有邊個能發誓自己冇呢?所以Peter輕鬆啲let him go，
如果講一兩句就能扶正一個人，呢個世界貧富懸殊嘅問題就唔會咁犀利啦!
今晚偶然睇到呢段爭嗌，令我聯想到香港兩個RC車場的風風雨雨。大家都知參與香港RC界嘅人數已經唔多，又何必針鎽相對呢?
你走你嘅陽關路，我走我嘅獨木橋，河水不犯井水，各自做好自已嘅!
玩車啫!又唔喺咩咁大件事，都只不過是遊戲一場，當有一日唔再接觸車仔界，就好似王傑隻歌咁：「一場遊戲一場夢」又可必咁認真呢!
時候不早了，小弟就此拜別！

                                                                                              I love PORSCHE 上

唔好嘈交喇.......

講車就講車.....OK......

我希望大家以車論車,唔好再針對任何人.......

遙控工廠係到貼文係我支持佢地咁做,因為我一則想多推動多O的人玩TM O既車,二則我亦都希望可以推動多O的人認識遙控工廠佢地,幫佢地手宣傳下佢地公司.作為一個希望推動遙控車玩意O既人,我亦都希望可以幫到一O的O岩O岩起步遙控鋪頭.

可能佢地講說話暫時未夠圓滑,可能佢地O既PRICE因為唔係大鋪未能做到大家如意,但希望大家俾小小耐性,俾小小容忍忍耐O既心,人地先會越做越好.

如果下下打沉晒人地,有一日,冇人願意再入O的新牌子,得返一兩個牌子獨大,咁樣對遙控玩家絕對唔係一件好事.

我希望大家明白.

以車論車,唔好再針對邊個講O左乜,果個講咗乜,好唔好?

I used to browse RC Manufactory's website every once a while.
Most parts seem to be in stock, with prices listed, it was quite convenient to browse around.

A month ago I started to consider one of the G4 breeds,
and I'm still considering.
If I were to buy, I'd say 95% I'll buy from RC Manufactory.

Yet, some of the RCM related guys seem to be not exactly nice on here.
The wordings, some of their language used, and most of all, their vision - it just gives me a rather negative image.

If you want customer satisfaction and loyalty, or widen your customer base,
being nice to them is a good start.
Accepting comparison and open discussion is another good way.
Yet, I often see RCM related guys stepping on other brands to praise TM cars.
I don't see that as being open to discussion, and is something I hate to see.
It just lowers the chance that I'll be visiting RCM again.

Lately, there are quite a number of posts that are advertisements to a huge extent.
One or two is fine, but when it's a huge flow of advertisements + stepping on other brands,
then rude posts here and there, customers are just going to flow away whether they are TM fans or not.

I'm a sucker for TM cars.  I love the E4 series and the M8 buggies.
Now I want to give the G4 a shot.
But for the past 2 months, some of RCM's posts simply piss me off.

I look forward to seeing the RCM being more open to discussion, with more informative posts and less ads.

[ 本帖最後由 BHP 於 2008-9-20 11:32 編輯 ]

我冇玩TM車，不過見到E4的設計同一般主流的車唔同。係唔係made in taiwan唔重要
佢果佢質料上乘，設計獨特有新意而又性能良好。咁我點解要care佢係咪made in taiwan?

我又唔覺得歐美的車廠一定係會好d。講價錢，歐美成本高d就一定。人工運費都佔唔少...

以前我都有諗過買tm車，不過見到個代理唔多好，零件唔夠齊全所以卻步。

依家有遙控車店有心攪好，其實大家應該高興先o岩。我唔一定要買，但係大家就多個選擇!

不過話時話。我都有部NT1。雖然係質料上乘。不過以絕對價格來講，我都唔覺佢值三千蚊。
始終我覺得個margin應該幾高.....覺得貴又唔一定係買唔起，佢貴極都係幾千蚊的野，俾盡
哂你買埋option又好乜都好，都係講緊一萬幾千的事。大把香港人買得起，所以我覺得, 覺得貴
唔代表買唔起...

之前既對話誰是誰非, 我就不評論, 公道自在人心, 正常人一睇就識分.
以討論TM車的設計/用料質素嚟講, 我以前擁有過第一代E4, 全新買入, 玩都未玩就蝕讓, E4有好有壞.
好方面:
-真正7075料(質素同x-ray差不多)
-重量集中, 用鋰電重量分佈都不會差好遠
-差不多full opton: multi diff, 前後金屬波箱, 金屬中座, 尾金屬差速, .金屬電架.. 比新款RS仲要補
-價錢不貴($27xx)
-三皮帶設計, 有新鮮感

壞方面:
-如用orion 3600 lipo要改二樓板/龍門架, 磨中座/電架(RS version已有改良)
-換電比較煩, 又要用膠紙/拆鏍絲
-整體剛性較弱
-膠料不夠硬
-精準度不夠
-只有RC study/RC mushroom有貨, 較為冷門, TM係HK沒有正式代理, parts supply俾人不夠信心.
-option/某部分parts價錢較貴, 只比x-ray平少少

如有錯漏, 請各位師兄指正.

"""不過話時話。我都有部NT1。雖然係質料上乘。不過以絕對價格來講，我都唔覺佢值三千蚊。
始終我覺得個margin應該幾高.....覺得貴又唔一定係買唔起，佢貴極都係幾千蚊的野，俾盡
哂你買埋option又好乜都好，都係講緊一萬幾千的事。大把香港人買得起，所以我覺得, 覺得貴
唔代表買唔起...""""

That is a good point.


quote]原帖由 heiman 於 2008-9-20 12:23 發表

                               
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我冇玩TM車，不過見到E4的設計同一般主流的車唔同。係唔係made in taiwan唔重要
佢果佢質料上乘，設計獨特有新意而又性能良好。咁我點解要care佢係咪made in taiwan?

我又唔覺得歐美的車廠一定係會好d。講價錢， ... [/quote]

原帖由 BHP 於 2008-9-20 11:10 發表

                               
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I used to browse RC Manufactory's website every once a while.
Most parts seem to be in stock, with prices listed, it was quite convenient to browse around.

A month ago I started to consider one of ...

絕對讚同呢位師兄既講法!
其實自己都岩岩買左部G4RS,覺得車既設計同表現都幾滿意! 價錢合理情度還算OK!
但係看完呢幾個Post後,真係有D失望!
其實之前都想對RCM有所回應!但又唔想成為炮灰之一 (因日後好難說服自已再上去買野)
叫每個人去客觀咁討論真係都幾難! 不如叫大家客氣D好過...

[ 本帖最後由 McKin 於 2008-9-20 15:05 編輯 ]

始終好客觀咁講.....rcm的人在明，其他人在暗。大部分車友都唔知果幾位人兄係乜水。佢地可能同rcm有私人恩怨都唔出奇。
但係rcm的人掛住rcm的singnature，係人都知佢地代表個車店，係車店的人。我覺得點都應該忍一忍，就算點俾人講都好。都應該以禮待人，

否則其他網友見到，只覺得rcm服務態度差，只會hardsell TM的product而唔再幫襯....

正如d明星私底下可能好唔檢點，但係o係鏡頭前就一定要扮到好榜樣一樣....

原來都有其他人係憤世嫉俗既.....
其實好簡單,乜野車好唔好,值唔值都好,大家放落賽車場pair幾轉,就知個人同架車係咩料~