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作者: ccw    時間: 2007-1-19 12:32
標題: Turbo & non turbo
玩過turbo引擎後,先知禁勁,再玩返non turbo引擎覺得無力.
作者: courel500    時間: 2007-1-19 12:39
梗係啦 ! 一分錢一分貨嗎 !
作者: ck    時間: 2007-1-19 12:48
原帖由 ccw 於 2007-1-19 12:32 發表
玩過turbo引擎後,先知禁勁,再玩返non turbo引擎覺得無力.



分架?
作者: ccw    時間: 2007-1-19 13:07
原帖由 ck 於 2007-1-19 12:48 發表



分架?

由其事係頭段,嘩!......勁!
作者: ck    時間: 2007-1-19 13:11
原帖由 ccw 於 2007-1-19 13:07 發表

由其事係頭段,嘩!......勁!


師兄我想知部eng分?有咩唔同???
作者: ccw    時間: 2007-1-19 13:22
原帖由 ck 於 2007-1-19 13:11 發表


師兄我想知部eng分?有咩唔同???

都未試過OS 12TZ TIM呀,只係STS D5R咋brother.
作者: ccw    時間: 2007-1-19 13:54
原帖由 ck 於 2007-1-19 13:11 發表


師兄我想知部eng分?有咩唔同???

火咀及盤頂唔同.
作者: cowcowlee    時間: 2007-1-19 14:31
最大分別係支架冷...

Photos from MAX
作者: ~出前一丁~    時間: 2007-1-19 16:20
原帖由 ccw 於 2007-1-19 13:54 發表

火咀及盤頂唔同.

咁即係如果普通engine換左盤頂就變turbo偈??
作者: rk2    時間: 2007-1-19 17:15
盤頂是否指散熱頂 ??
作者: rk2    時間: 2007-1-19 17:16
原帖由 cowcowlee 於 2007-1-19 14:31 發表
最大分別係支架冷...

Photos from MAX

咁上圖係有 turbo ? 定係無 turbo ??
作者: rk2    時間: 2007-1-19 17:17
原帖由 cowcowlee 於 2007-1-19 14:31 發表
最大分別係支架冷...

Photos from MAX

咁上圖係有 turbo ? 定係無 turbo ??
作者: courel500    時間: 2007-1-19 17:33
原帖由 rk2 於 2007-1-19 17:17 發表

咁上圖係有 turbo ? 定係無 turbo ??

有turbo , 佢呢支仲正 , 係改過既engine先有個條 "V" 字 凹位同埋中間紅色個舊野 !
作者: courel500    時間: 2007-1-19 17:36
原帖由 ck 於 2007-1-19 13:11 發表


師兄我想知部eng分?有咩唔同???

普通engine(唔係turbo)個粒火咀有介子 , turbo engine 係無介子同長 d , 發熱線邊位係斜邊 !
作者: Timothypychan    時間: 2007-1-19 17:56
原帖由 courel500 於 2007-1-19 17:33 發表

有turbo , 佢呢支仲正 , 係改過既engine先有個條 "V" 字 凹位同埋中間紅色個舊野 !


紅色果舊野係Maxpower Engine 都有嫁!!!
作者: rk2    時間: 2007-1-20 13:41
從理論上說, 點解 turbo 會勁左呢 ? ( 真正的 turbo 叫 是渦輪增壓) r/c 引擎的 turbo 是 .........?? 
作者: ck    時間: 2007-1-20 13:54
原帖由 rk2 於 2007-1-20 13:41 發表
從理論上說, 點解 turbo 會勁左呢 ? ( 真正的 turbo 叫 是渦輪增壓) r/c 引擎的 turbo 是 .........?? 


我估用個名姐 turbo 勁 d
作者: sunnyshao007    時間: 2007-1-20 14:01
原帖由 rk2 於 2007-1-20 13:41 發表
從理論上說, 點解 turbo 會勁左呢 ? ( 真正的 turbo 叫 是渦輪增壓) r/c 引擎的 turbo 是 .........?? 


大食鬼???
作者: sunnyshao007    時間: 2007-1-20 14:02
想問下os既12cv-r(1.0ps)
有沒有turbo??
作者: rk2    時間: 2007-1-20 14:40
加個 "turbo" 貼紙係車殼到 !!!   多左2 匹
作者: ck    時間: 2007-1-20 14:41
原帖由 rk2 於 2007-1-20 14:40 發表
加個 "turbo" 貼紙係車殼到 !!!   多左2 匹


加 10張 la ............快
作者: rk2    時間: 2007-1-20 14:46
原帖由 ck 於 2007-1-20 14:41 發表


加 10張 la ............快

唔係加得多就快 硬係要個 "turbo " 字d既貼紙 啦 !!!!
作者: sunnyshao007    時間: 2007-1-20 16:04
+副v16/v12仲快>>>
作者: cowcowlee    時間: 2007-1-20 16:27
咁呢架一定有Turbo...
作者: rk2    時間: 2007-1-20 16:29
當年紅極一時 !!
作者: chrishkyung    時間: 2007-1-20 17:26
In RC engines, "turbo" is used to classify those engines equipped with heat sink available for plug in taper shape - called as turbo plug.  In general, except the plug/heat sink design, there is no major difference between turbo rc engines and ordinary rc engines.  

The air-tightness of turbo rc engines is better than ordinary engines because of its taper plug design.  U can also identified that there is no copper ring in turbo plugs.  The copper ring is for air-tigthness and control compression ratio a little bit.

Therefore, the turbo's design is only for better air-tightness.  No special difference.  No need to say turbo RC engines must be very powerful.  (Of course, nowadays, most powerful engines use turbo plug designs because of good air tighness) But turbo design could not ensure strong power.  In fact, some old RC engines made in Italy with standard plug are more powerful than some turbo RC engines available in market.  

There is habit that expressing personal idea for RC items without logical consideration in this forum.  In fact, all RC items are scientific and developed based on physic and engineering technology (100% not based on blowing water) It could be found that mainland RC players are more professional than HK.  U can see see their RC forum.  They wont blow water without ground.
作者: DieselEngine    時間: 2007-1-20 18:32
原帖由 rk2 於 20/1/2007 02:40 PM 發表
加個 "turbo" 貼紙係車殼到 !!!   多左2 匹

係就加埋V-tec
作者: 中遠    時間: 2007-1-20 18:59
加埋nos仲勁。。。
作者: rk2    時間: 2007-1-20 20:02
原帖由 chrishkyung 於 2007-1-20 17:26 發表
In RC engines, "turbo" is used to classify those engines equipped with heat sink available for plug in taper shape - called as turbo plug.  In general, except the plug/heat sink design, t ...


Thank you very much for your detail explanation. I understand now the "Turbo"  term is not quoted for nothing or just for marketing concern.
作者: cowcowlee    時間: 2007-1-20 20:35
原帖由 chrishkyung 於 2007-1-20 17:26 發表
In RC engines, "turbo" is used to classify those engines equipped with heat sink available for plug in taper shape - called as turbo plug.  In general, except the plug/heat sink design, t ...


Would you please explain more about the different between the standard crankshaft and the turbo crankshaft?? Mr....professional
作者: ccw    時間: 2007-1-20 23:04
重好慳油tim.
作者: chrishkyung    時間: 2007-1-22 09:22
no difference in crankshaft between turbo engines and standard engines
作者: ccw    時間: 2007-1-22 11:44
原帖由 ~出前一丁~ 於 2007-1-19 16:20 發表

咁即係如果普通engine換左盤頂就變turbo偈??

Mugen MT12咪就係換咗盤頂&火咀就變turbo偈囉.

[ 本帖最後由 ccw 於 2007-1-22 11:45 編輯 ]
作者: chrishkyung    時間: 2007-1-22 15:43
the red silicone as shown on  photo of the max crankshaft has no specific name in RC engines.  The silicone is used to streamline intake flow and the most important advantage is to increase the first compression ratio of the intake fuel/air mix ---------

the propellel cutting at the end of craftshaft is called as turbo scoop...but those turbo scoop could be found from standard engines/turbo engines...
作者: Evo5    時間: 2007-1-22 16:06
原帖由 ccw 於 2007-1-19 01:22 PM 發表

都未試過OS 12TZ TIM呀,只係STS D5R咋brother.


D5r mei turbo law !
作者: ccw    時間: 2007-1-22 20:14
原帖由 Evo5 於 2007-1-22 16:06 發表


D5r mei turbo law !

係呀,d5r係turbo,不過唔知幾多port呢?
作者: cowcowlee    時間: 2007-1-22 20:15
原帖由 ccw 於 2007-1-22 20:14 發表

係呀,d5r係turbo,不過唔知幾多port呢?


5 port...
作者: ccw    時間: 2007-1-22 20:29
原帖由 cowcowlee 於 2007-1-22 20:15 發表


5 port...

$1000買倒部5port機,咁都幾底玩喎.
作者: ccw    時間: 2007-1-22 20:33
原帖由 ccw 於 2007-1-22 20:29 發表

$1000買倒部5port機,咁都幾底玩喎.

我買部OS 12TG都要$900.(NON TURBO)
作者: cowcowlee    時間: 2007-1-22 21:00
原帖由 chrishkyung 於 2007-1-22 09:22 發表
no difference in crankshaft between turbo engines and standard engines


The 1st picture is the Turbo shaft, the 2nd is EFRA legal shaft...don't you think they are no difference??.....

P.S. Photos from http://www.rcmaxpower.com

[ 本帖最後由 cowcowlee 於 2007-1-22 21:02 編輯 ]
作者: rk2    時間: 2007-1-23 09:21
排氣口唔同 !
作者: ccw    時間: 2007-1-24 23:55
下次買引擎都係買turbo......
作者: courel500    時間: 2007-1-25 00:12
原帖由 ccw 於 2007-1-22 20:29 發表

$1000買倒部5port機,咁都幾底玩喎.


STS 剛打入 HK 市場 , 代理人標價 $1100 ~ 1200 ( 跟多一支"架冷"比你 , 因為for你溫完之後換 ) , 但呢個 engine 唯一唔好處係唔可以駁油 , 對比 novarossi 來講 , 2nd 缸油都仲肯去 , STS 就
作者: ccw    時間: 2007-1-25 00:17
原帖由 courel500 於 2007-1-25 00:12 發表


STS 剛打入 HK 市場 , 代理人標價 $1100 ~ 1200 ( 跟多一支"洵逆or你溫完之後換 ) , 但呢個 engine 唯一唔好處係唔可以駁油 , 對比 novarossi 來講 , 2nd 缸油都仲肯去 , STS 就

如果$1200,咁就買OS 12TZ 3port喇.
作者: cowcowlee    時間: 2007-1-25 09:49
原帖由 ccw 於 2007-1-24 23:55 發表
下次買引擎都係買turbo......


mod機仲勁ah...JP, Max, Mega....bababababa
作者: chrishkyung    時間: 2007-1-25 09:56
just want to ask if os 12TZ is turbo engine? Please check check the look of its crankshaft?
In fact, the cutting verge at EFRA cranshaft also is turbo scoop...the manufacturer cut the turbo scoop at the pendulum only for the EFRA shaft.  Its because they need to comply with EFRA SPEC....for those crankshafts with big scoop up to the intake hole, some manufacturers call them as turbo crankshaft but some wont intend to call them as Outlaw...

Please check OS 12TZ spec or other engines recognized by EFRA...most equipped with turbo glowplugs and they dont have big turbo scoop up to intake hole...But MOST PEOPLE CONSIDER THOSE ENGINES AS TURBO

If insist to say Turbo engines must have big turbo scoop, nothing to say...U can assume u ar right
作者: ccw    時間: 2007-1-25 10:35
原帖由 cowcowlee 於 2007-1-25 09:49 發表


mod機仲勁ah...JP, Max, Mega....bababababa

我驚快得滯玩唔惦呀brother.
作者: TODA    時間: 2007-1-25 14:42
原帖由 ccw 於 2007-1-22 11:44 發表

Mugen MT12咪就係換咗盤頂&火咀就變turbo偈囉.


MT12 好 Q 快....
作者: TODA    時間: 2007-1-25 14:43
原帖由 courel500 於 2007-1-25 00:12 發表


STS 剛打入 HK 市場 , 代理人標價 $1100 ~ 1200 ( 跟多一支"洵逆or你溫完之後換 ) , 但呢個 engine 唯一唔好處係唔可以駁油 , 對比 novarossi 來講 , 2nd 缸油都仲肯去 , STS 就


格冷定 Conrod 呀...咁好有格冷送?邊間呀?

我買個陣送 Conrod 咋喎...
作者: ccw    時間: 2007-1-25 14:49
原帖由 TODA 於 2007-1-25 14:42 發表


MT12 好 Q 快....

係呀,MT-12turbo 3port咋,重快過D5R turbo 5port呀.
作者: TODA    時間: 2007-1-25 15:18
原帖由 ccw 於 2007-1-25 14:49 發表

係呀,MT-12turbo 3port咋,重快過D5R turbo 5port呀.


起圍快過我富 Max mod 機...

原陸 9 層頂都係 9x 度....
作者: ccw    時間: 2007-1-25 15:38
原帖由 TODA 於 2007-1-25 15:18 發表


起圍快過我富 Max mod 機...

原陸 9 層頂都係 9x 度....

MT-12 turbo係好勁,但啲材料就......真可惜!




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