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作者: Bluebird 時間: 2012-1-17 22:30
標題: Race & Play
Do u agree to allow Gyro in F1 race & Play?
I don't agree in race.

作者: slowerthanyou 時間: 2012-1-17 22:44
no for racing! play is play so whatever floats your boat.

作者: tt01E 時間: 2012-1-17 22:56
I don't agree using gyro in race but I think it is a good way for beginners to practice how to play a rwd car because it is really hard for beginners to go fast and stable with a rwd. They can adjust the magnitude of the gyro and decrease it a little at a time, until they don't need the assistance from the gyro anymore.

作者: kevin-ysl 時間: 2012-1-17 23:15
呢個題目開得幾好...
gyro用起F1度真係for開心多!!
用黎比賽!!日本方面似乎重未禁止~~
究竟我地為什麼比佢地先禁呢??
其實gyro嘅作用的確可以令一個17s圈速減少半秒!
我認為...睇大圍囉~~~

作者: kitkitrc 時間: 2012-1-17 23:45
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what is gyro??????????/
thx

作者: kevin-ysl 時間: 2012-1-18 01:47
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gyro呢件野源於rc直昇機鎖定機尾之用~~
作用於被動情況下作出相對動作以保持原本位置!!
好難明白!!即係如果隻直昇機hold緊起半空時..
gyro可以自動去對抗不同原因尾部走動..
用起車上...佢可以起一d過度轉向嘅情況下幫你補呔...
令你唔使主動去修正..

另外...我想分享下我對gyro嘅睇法先!!
我唔會反對佢用於比賽上...
我會用佢去協助F1用上過大動力系統..
佢唔可能完美咁修正轉向過度..你始終都要去控制佢...
當你將GYRO調較過大架車根本行唔到直!!較得太細又唔會有效!!
快左嘅原因係輪胎使用比較有效左...
少甩時幫手修正...令咬地性能提升左...
胎都耐用D~~~

作者: RCK 時間: 2012-1-18 02:22
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gyro have photo......thx ching

作者: 豪仔1906 時間: 2012-1-18 03:39
用gyro一世玩唔好手車!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

作者: rwang 時間: 2012-1-18 11:00
I like Gyro devices in F1 RC because it makes driver like us (Not so good) better and more able to compete. Especially with direct drive chassis F1 cars, it gives it more chance against independent suspension cars like FGX. Gyro is not for everyone, some drivers prefer not to have Gyro installed because it actually slows them down or change their driving style. Whether it is allowed or not for races should depend on the race organizers. Japan's F1RCGP, and China's SGP1 both allow Gyro devices just like FIA allowing Traction Control in the real F1 cars. Some people may say it is not fair, but not fair is only if you cannot obtain a Gyro device while others can, in this case, many brands (Zen, HPI DBox, Futaba G190, etc...) make Gyro device everyone can buy on open market, so it is fair. So I am in favor of allowing Gyro for F1 races.

作者: lrr174 時間: 2012-1-18 11:17
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kevin-ysl 發表於 2012-1-18 01:47

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gyro呢件野源於rc直昇機鎖定機尾之用~~

原來有d咁神奇既東西

其實如果F1車設計到頭轆行直軸 instead of free spin,
應該會易好多, 又唔"茅" (唔係電子自動控緊部車),
but 點解 F1 沒有頭直設計?

作者: herbert1 時間: 2012-1-18 12:40
好耐之前用過，感覺好似怪怪..........最後係拆返落黎

作者: civicboy 時間: 2012-1-18 13:52

lrr174 發表於 2012-1-18 11:17

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原來有d咁神奇既東西

其實如果F1車設計到頭轆行直軸 instead of free spin,

因此真車都係尾驅囉...

F201 未 4WD F1 RC, 你玩F201未得囉...

作者: lrr174 時間: 2012-1-18 15:17
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civicboy 發表於 2012-1-18 13:52

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因此真車都係尾驅囉...

F201 未 4WD F1 RC, 你玩F201未得囉...

家陣 F1 rc尾驅車頭轆左右獨立free spin罷,
but I suggested 頭轆直軸得黎沒有動力 i.e. RWD頭直

in fact 這是我目前玩尾驅TT01的setting,
比較起頭轆左右獨立free spin 冇咁易打白鴿轉,
新手like me都唔難玩,
出灣車尾又甩甩地好玩的

作者: civicboy 時間: 2012-1-18 22:30

lrr174 發表於 2012-1-18 15:17

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家陣 F1 rc尾驅車頭轆左右獨立free spin罷,
but I suggested 頭轆直軸得黎沒有動力 i.e. RWD頭直 ...

頭無動力,又要直濕???
有乜用架???
即係頭無差速, 又可以轉???
點玩架, 乜系統, 乜理論來架???

未又要多好多野, 未又重左好多囉...
真車有無架...

我舊年十月先玩rcf1炸...
仲未聽聞呢家d野喎...

師兄比d資料來睇吓好喎...

作者: gimsink 時間: 2012-1-18 23:22
Gyro幾好玩架, 之前借隻HPI泥玩过, 衣之賓 ! 不過我覺得开天殺價, 所以冇買. 至於係唔係用Gyro就練唔好手車....調番轉泥講吖, 冇用Gyro係唔係手車一定好呢?

作者: keithlaw 時間: 2012-1-20 08:48

civicboy 發表於 2012-1-18 22:30

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頭無動力,又要直濕???
有乜用架???
即係頭無差速, 又可以轉???

你係唔係玩野?????

作者: lrr174 時間: 2012-1-20 10:25

civicboy 發表於 2012-1-18 22:30

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頭無動力,又要直濕???
有乜用架???
即係頭無差速, 又可以轉???

唔認為可行唔緊要 ... 當我發嗡瘋

作者: civicboy 時間: 2012-1-21 01:26

lrr174 發表於 2012-1-20 10:25

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唔認為可行唔緊要 ... 當我發嗡瘋

我無話唔得, 不過未見過F1有呢家野...

以前玩4WD, 當前皮帶斷左...
嘗試當行後驅, 不過係絕對唔好行囉...

作者: TheWolf 時間: 2012-1-21 21:49
I am a poor F1 driver, understand what gyro is but didn't play with it before.
Assuming it's not too expensive (I don't know the price at all) and easily get one from the market, I think it's fun to allow it in racing to fit different style of racer. I guess it's like driving Auto-transmission or Manual in 1:1 car racing, AT may be easier for those beginner want to get a trial at track but at the cost of additional overheads induced, i.e. power lose, and for sure professional racer will properly prefer the more direct/simple method for getting more control out of it, i.e. MT. After all, it's fair game as long as compile to the racing rule set.

Btw, interested to know the tracking difference between traditional F103/4 direct drive vs FGX out of it's design. Thanks Ching.

作者: Scania 時間: 2012-1-21 22:23

civicboy 發表於 2012-1-18 22:30

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頭無動力,又要直濕???
有乜用架???
即係頭無差速, 又可以轉???

真車既F1，以前BAR試過係頭裝直濕，用一套濕式極力子連住(想象一套LSD得返限滑個疊片左右碌互鎖，冇左套差速牙)
係用來剎車轉灣時平衡兩邊車碌既剎車力度，冇咁易lock死前呔
但用係RC就明顯冇用o羅…

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