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作者: benlau 時間: 2011-10-16 01:34
標題: NOVAK HAVOC PRO #3119 分享區
ARE YOU READY 1015 MX CLUB試車失敗

作者: fr888 時間: 2011-10-16 01:36
There is any way to raise the cut-off limit? I've lent my SC10 4x4 for my friend for race and got the same result as you.......................
Btw have u tried removing the overtray?
作者: Marco明 時間: 2011-10-16 01:46
fr888 發表於 2011-10-16 01:36
There is any way to raise the cut-off limit? I've lent my SC10 4x4 for my friend for race and got th ...
又係太早cut機???
作者: Marco明 時間: 2011-10-16 01:59
fr888 發表於 2011-10-16 01:36
There is any way to raise the cut-off limit? I've lent my SC10 4x4 for my friend for race and got th ...
都話左呢隻esc唔掂.........可能要係美國先用得.....哈哈
作者: ford 時間: 2011-10-16 02:03
隻電變其實有幾多 A?
會否試用於8.5tmotor 情况會否好d
作者: benlau 時間: 2011-10-16 02:12
其實有冇師兄成功用到此ESC呢?是我不識set定係隻esc太先進呢?今天我用原廠mode 12齒 反覆試了2排Team SE 6200mah 60C lipo 電,凍motor&esc行了6-7分鐘左右就慢了下來,起初我以為冇電,經check過之後還有7.98v,等了大約5分鐘又完全正常。連續2-3次之後本人覺得此esc的過熱保護實在太有問題了。希望各位師兄比D意見及分享一下心得。thx

作者: fr888 時間: 2011-10-16 02:14
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禾訂咗12T, 仲未試......................................
作者: fr888 時間: 2011-10-16 02:22
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http://www.amainhobbies.com/prod ... 32P-Pinion-Gear-12T 
作者: ford 時間: 2011-10-16 02:25
唔.....Novak.....打破了貴嘢就好的定論
作者: fr888 時間: 2011-10-16 02:28
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> 禁你吾使試啦,我今天咪用12T lor
OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!


作者: benlau 時間: 2011-10-16 02:35
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11T我都有呀!算巴啦,我諗我都係放棄它轉用我的最愛SP GT 2.0 PRO 好過。因為我試了用係Losi Ten Scte 到都冇事。motor係Novak 550 5.5t 用13T非常暢順仲可以行成10鐘以上。

作者: ford 時間: 2011-10-16 02:40
ben 兄唔知hobbywing shortscourse pro 好定 sp gt 2.0 pro.?
作者: benlau 時間: 2011-10-16 02:44
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Sorry呀!我從來吾會冒hobbywing的esc


作者: jf813 時間: 2011-10-16 02:50
Friend of mine have same issue with his novak in the sc10 4x4.......
作者: fr888 時間: 2011-10-16 03:16
Created a thread in rctech, see if anyone has any good advice........................:
http://www.rctech.net/forum/elec ... combo-sc10-4x4.html
作者: Marco明 時間: 2011-10-16 13:39
ford 發表於 2011-10-16 02:40
ben 兄唔知hobbywing shortscourse pro 好定 sp gt 2.0 pro.?
sp gt2.0主要係for平路1:10
其實做咩要試黎試去......直接買隻rx8咪咩事都無
作者: benlau 時間: 2011-10-16 15:11
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多謝Co哥關心,請問RX8是什麼牌子同幾錢呀?吾該Co哥。thx

作者: Marco明 時間: 2011-10-16 15:27
benlau 發表於 2011-10-16 15:11
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多謝Co哥關心,請問RX8是什麼牌子同幾錢呀?吾該Co哥。thx
tekin rx8
有感1:8 size esc
作者: kiev 時間: 2011-10-16 16:12
本帖最後由 kiev 於 2011-10-16 16:20 編輯
呢 D 咁高檔美國電變邊有咁差架 .... 我的幾百蚊隻好盈都唔會咁既情況啦 ~~~ 係咪樓主唔識 set 呀 ?樓主可否分享下電變 setting 好似 timing 、Brake Frequency、Drive Frequency 咁呀? Frequency set 得高電變都會比較易過熱,同埋 sc 車本身重唔適合用高 timing 谷快架車架 !
作者: benlau 時間: 2011-10-16 16:44
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timing level 0 brake frequency2.25khz drive frequency13.8khz 這是原廠setting,請指教。

作者: powis 時間: 2011-10-16 17:01
benlau 發表於 2011-10-16 02:35
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11T我都有呀!算巴啦,我諗我都係放棄它轉用我的最愛SP GT 2.0 PRO 好過。因為我試了用 ...
SP GT 2.0 Pro is 1:10 touring ESC....
You should use some normal offroad esc like RX8, MMM, even MMP...Hobbywing shortcourse motor should also be better than SP GT 2.0 pro.
作者: powis 時間: 2011-10-16 17:02
kiev 發表於 2011-10-16 16:12
呢 D 咁高檔美國電變邊有咁差架 .... 我的幾百蚊隻好盈都唔會咁既情況啦 ~~~ 係咪樓主唔識 set 呀 ?樓主可否 ...
No, Novak ESC is not 高檔 haha!! 
作者: fr888 時間: 2011-10-16 17:50
Quote:
Originally Posted by chad bradley
My Havok Pro SC Settings for 4wd Short Course
Motor Ballistic 4.5
ESC Havok Pro SC
Truck Ofna Nexx10SC
Pinion 13 or 14t
Settings Changed from Default
Drag Brake Off (1 light)
Drive Freq Smoothest (1 light)
Brake Freq Smoothest (10 lights)
Timing zero/off (1 light)
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nice i run the same and no problems at all whit it
http://www.rctech.net/forum/9762967-post246.html
作者: fr888 時間: 2011-10-16 18:08
本帖最後由 fr888 於 2011-10-16 18:15 編輯
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Ben can u try drag brake 0 / throttle curve linear / reverse on / break frequency 7, I'm not in HK can't give a try yet.......................
作者: fr888 時間: 2011-10-16 18:26
本帖最後由 fr888 於 2011-10-16 18:30 編輯
> I will try some setting。因為有D吾服氣!THANKS
x2!
Maybe can also try 15T, bcos being under geared can increase esc temps, over gearing increases motor temps, in general..
作者: benlau 時間: 2011-10-16 18:55
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我覺得可能NOVAK ESC太先進。吾SET吾用得,因為我剛SET完發覺多左LED着。完先3個LED着。SET完之後有4個LED着。師兄你看是不是。THX


作者: ThomasZ 時間: 2011-10-16 19:05
4.5T 係咪for配高齒比平路用架? 越野車要快唔係應該用大扭力配低齒比?
作者: 豬油高 時間: 2011-10-16 22:36
我曾見過powis 師兄 提過novak 電變唔係好得,但Benlau 師兄話佢用開沒有問題的
作者: wmej1 時間: 2011-10-16 22:41
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But this topic show he found the issued now, hope he can solve it and support his decision to bought this set combo was correct, no doubt of it.
作者: powis 時間: 2011-10-16 23:09
豬油高 發表於 2011-10-16 22:36
我曾見過powis 師兄 提過novak 電變唔係好得,但Benlau 師兄話佢用開沒有問題的
Take it easy! 
I also hope Ben Ching can solve his problem.
作者: Marco明 時間: 2011-10-17 00:17
10個用家......8個小鬼佢......這是我係其他forum見到既評語
雖然我未用過......不過就覺得唔值得去試
作者: ftbingobingo 時間: 2011-10-17 01:32
本帖最後由 ftbingobingo 於 2011-10-17 20:02 編輯
Our team testing experience:
1. SCTE:
a) LRP SXX TC SPEC V2+LRP X12L 5.5T motor (HKD$23XX):
with 15T pinion, very fast, but ESC overheat cut-off after 3min. Changed to 12T pinion, the problem happens at 4-5 minutes with harder driving.
b) LRP SXX TC SPEC V2+SP Silver Arrow V2 8.5T motor (HKD$18XX):
works fine with 14/15T pinions, but a bit slow for me
c) HW 150A 1/8 sensored+LRP X12L 5.5T motor (HKD$16XX):
with 13T pinion, has BEC problem when apply hard throttle, can't fixed even added receiver capacitors, problem solved by adding a tiny IP 220mAh LiFe Rx batt; this match is very stable and quick. If use Sanwa 2.4G receivers, no BEC problem so no receiver battery is needed
d) Tekin RX8 + Tekin SC4x 4.5T motor (HKD$24XX):
with 13T pinion, this match is very fast, but the motor is 85 deg after 10min run, normally takes more than 30min to cool down. The motor is killled after 3 "10min run>20min rest" cycles
e) Tekin RX8 + Tenshock SC401 (HKD$19XX):
with 13T pinion, the power is quite high, the battery drain is fast too; but the lower end control is a bit poor because no sensor, can't do 某位高人講"比油 Full 雞就Full 雞, 半油就半油”果種效果
f) Tekin RX8 + LRP X12L 5.5T (HKD$24XX):
with 13T pinion, performance quite good but I myself take it a bit under powered.
g) HW SC8 + SC401 (HKD$10XX):
Fair performance but motor a bit hot with 13T pinion. Again control is problem without sensor.
h) Tekin RX8 + Tekin SC4x 5.5T (HKD$24XX):
Quite good and stable match using 13T pinion.
2) DESC410R
a)SP Sliver Arrow V2 + Sliver Arrow V2 5.5T motor (HKD$9XX)
with 12-14T pinions, this match is quite good, but like HW 150A, this ESC doesn’t work good with Futaba receivers, need a receiver batt. Tried a gas car 降壓BEC direct draw power from main batt to receiver but still has BEC problem.
b)
SP GT 2.0 PRO + Silver Arrow V2 5.5T motor (HKD$13XX)
With 14T pinion, tried turbo timing program, the system cut-down at 6 minutes but runs quite good. Then tried 12/13T pinions with more conservative ESC settings, now still can run 8-9minutes with IP 5400mAh 60C batt.
c)
Novak Hovac + Novak Ballistic 4.5T(HKD$16XX):
The system simply not work before touching ground, still waiting for reply from dealer.
3) Nexx 10
a)
SP Sliver Arrow V2 + Sliver Arrow V2 5.5T motor (HKD$9XX)
With 13T pinion, my friend enjoys this economic combo very much with quite
fast speed. He uses Sanwa radio so no BEC problems.
4) SC10 4X4
a)
SP Sliver Arrow V2 + Sliver Arrow V2 5.5T motor (HKD$9XX)
With 12T pinion and Chinese 2.4 receiver, runs good without BEC problem.
ALL THE ABOVE SITUATION WE RUN WITHOUT MOTOR FAN FOR FAIR CONTROL TEST
作者: ftbingobingo 時間: 2011-10-17 02:06
本帖最後由 ftbingobingo 於 2011-10-17 02:09 編輯
希望以上資料幫到大家:
尼緊會試: TEKIN PRO4 4600Kv, TENSHOCK 4-POLE SENSORED, LRP X12L 4.5T, REEDY SONIC 550 4.0T, TRINITY EPIC 550 3.5T
以上摩打我將會用Tekin RX8同極期待既LRP iX8試, 有時間會試埋HW SCT-PRO
作者: wildbruiser 時間: 2011-10-17 05:17
好pro
作者: mlee 時間: 2011-10-17 07:27
Guys, have any of you consider that the combo is designed for PRO racing where each racing cycle is 5minutes?
作者: powis 時間: 2011-10-17 07:50
ftbingobingo 發表於 2011-10-17 01:32
Our team testing experience:
1. SCTE:
a) LRP SXX TC SPEC V2+LRP X12L 5.5T motor (HKD$23XX):
Very detailed report! Nice ! 
作者: wmej1 時間: 2011-10-17 08:16
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Excellent reports thanks
作者: mlee 時間: 2011-10-17 13:37
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Trying to smooth out the situation.... Surely, it is a joke...
作者: ford 時間: 2011-10-17 19:47
本帖最後由 ford 於 2011-10-17 19:54 編輯
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謝謝Frankie兄的team認真和專業化.
做人也十分客觀,平的貴的都試吓,得出來才有客觀化的結果.
其待你們實用的分享.
作者: mansiu 時間: 2011-10-17 23:12
等待箸Frankie兄既FS Racing Team 測試TEKIN PRO4 4600Kv
作者: benlau 時間: 2011-10-17 23:48
其實到現在為止有冇師兄成功set到及用到NOVAK HAVOC PRO呢隻ESC在MX CLUB行到10分鐘而又冇慢及CUTOUT呢?


thx
作者: benlau 時間: 2011-10-20 21:19
1020 MX CLUB 測試篇。今天經過一連串測試証實此Novak Hovac Pro#3119不可以放在AE SC10 4x4上。因為過熱問題只可以行走3-5分鐘就慢下來。已加風扇及冇裝overtray都會過熱。本人應為此esc應該安裝在SC10 2wd上應該冇以上問題。還有最後一提此esc可能過熱係統太敏感。


作者: lmy 時間: 2011-10-21 20:47
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我都入左RX8, 非常滿意

作者: lmy 時間: 2011-10-21 20:49
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BEN哥轉會啦..
作者: benlau 時間: 2011-10-21 21:21
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明天入吾入CLUB
作者: lmy 時間: 2011-10-22 07:36
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我個FRIEND 未得呀... 要睇下, 下個星期6 OR 再下個呀. 入之前PM 你
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